Having grown up in NY and in the left, is still have many leftist friends.
I find this is the most effective way to get them to think about why tax and spend is a fundamentally bad thing; I ask them:
Why do you want to send more money to DC so career politicians and lobbyists can spend it on the things they want?
MOST AGREE IT'S NOT A GREAT THING TO DO.
One old liberal I know just sent out an email demanding a Constitutional amendment to take away the health plans and pensions of congressmen.
People are really fed up with Congress.
And this of course is a good thing for all of us who favor limited government.
We should be appealing to disaffected libs on this level
We can win them over.
Another thing I ask sometimes of libs is this:
Do you want President Bachmann and Majority Leader Demint and Speaker West to have more of YOUR money!?
They begin to understand that big government is not necessarily their friend.
THEY BEGIN TO SEE THE WISDOM OF LIMITED GOVERNMENT.